Idiocracy: Pt 2
Sammie Roffman, Ben Silverio, and Ansel Burch are pop culture observers/content creators/excellent friends who can operate a push-button doctor pad and will be happy to tell you what plants crave. They’re here to welcome you into the increasingly plausible future of Idiocracy.
It’s time to review the incredible piece of work that is Idiocracy. We may get a little lost in what the movie means to us and what it says about the world, but hey, you watched this. You don’t need us to recap the plot for you.
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Transcript
Ben Silverio 0:04
Hey, I'm Ben Silverio
Sammie Roffman 0:07
and I'm Sammy Rothman and
Ansel Burch 0:09
I'm Ansel Burch,
Ben Silverio 0:11
and it's time to
Sammie Roffman 0:13
party.
Ansel Burch 0:16
We're not doctors. We don't give medical advice. Please drink responsibly. Today's episode was recorded on December 8, 2025 Yes,
Ben Silverio 0:25
it is party people, you know shit. I know shit's bad right now, but I got a solution, and it's time to party. That is, right? And if you get that reference, you know that we are talking about Idiocracy. Mike judges, 2006 cult classic still feels weird thinking that this movie is going to be 20 years old in 2026 what the absolute fuck anyway.
Sammie Roffman 0:58
Listeners know that you record them all at once, because I need you to know why I'm laughing so hard every time that music. Please tell them, because this is now the second time I have heard it, and each time it becomes more surprising, and so I've been cracking up. So I don't want you to think that I just laugh. That's why I'm laughing. I can't wait to hear it. The third time, we
Ansel Burch 1:23
can send you very own mp three of it
Sammie Roffman 1:26
please. Exactly.
Ben Silverio 1:29
The voice you are hearing is the magnificent Sammy Rothman joining us from the bloody disgusting Podcast Network.
Speaker 1 1:37
Is it
Ben Silverio 1:38
weird that you're not talking about horror this time.
Sammie Roffman 1:41
It's very strange. I mean, on the lady killers, we definitely have broadened that, like we talk about feminine rage as a whole. So it's not just whore. We just covered Fargo, so the episode will be out here by the time this is out. And technically, she's not a lady killer, but she does shoot. It's just not to kill. So we're just we've brought into that. So we don't just do women who kill. It's just feminine rage as a whole. And then over on the losers club, we don't always, because, like, Stephen King's not always whore. So we definitely do, like, have some episodes that are, you know, like the Shawshank Redemption, or, like, stand by me stuff like that. But for the most part, that's all I really do all day, every day. I mean, I live in a tomb of horror. So it is. It's nice to kind of talk, even though there's an argument to be made that this is a horror movie, so actually slow developing? Yeah, absolutely, maybe the long talking about horror.
Ben Silverio 2:34
Yes. Listeners, if you weren't paying attention, we're talking about Idiocracy this month. If you don't know anything about this movie, our friends at letterboxed tell us this
Speaker 1 2:47
to
Ben Silverio 2:47
test its top secret human hibernation project, the Pentagon picks the most average american it can find an army, private and a prostitute, and sends them to the year 20 or Yeah, 2505 after a series of freak events, but when they arrive, they find a civilization so dumbed down that they are the smartest people around. Ooh, Sammy, we touched on this in the first episode, and you brought us some amazing picks, but this this movie you picked as to honor your dad, right?
Sammie Roffman 3:22
I did, yes, I thought it would be a nice way to do that, until I watched the movie again, and I thought, hmm, maybe this isn't as funny as we thought it was 20 years ago, and perhaps his feelings would change now. But you know, I still thought it would be a nice thing to do. Absolutely appreciate it. Yeah, and
Ben Silverio 3:44
you know, when you told me about that, I was thinking, I'm like, did they go to the theater to go see this movie? But then it's like, no one went to the theater.
Sammie Roffman 3:51
No one did. They completely bombed, like any marketing for this movie. And I think it was supposed to have been like a straight to video up to the studio, but Mike Judge had it in his contract. They did have to do a theatrical release, even though I find it very strange that they were selling brondo like they had a site for you like to buy brondo, which is like, if you're gonna, if you didn't market the movie at all, why are you gonna create an entire website to market the fake drink from the movie? But no, we didn't see this in theaters. My dad and I were king and Princess of sitting on the couch and eating Oreos and getting stoned together, although I was not getting stoned when I was 12, when I was older, although actually it was only a couple years later, so I'm not that far off. But um, so this was, as I like said on the last episode, we just had a shit ton of DVDs because my dad lived up the hill in Northern California, so we were kind of close to, like Colfax, if you're familiar with that area, and we had little to no service, like for anything. So we didn't really have a dish or anything like that. Or we did it would just go out constantly. Me. And so whatever DVDs we had were what we had, and this was one of them. And I vividly remember the, you know, the artwork on the front, the Leonardo da Vinci artwork of our titular character, even though he isn't the idiot of the movie. But yeah, I I've watched this one a couple of times. Now, I would say more in my youth, but as an adult, I think this is only like my fourth time watching it since I was 12, so
it's a little different. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 5:30
I used to go to Blockbuster frequently, as I'm sure many people of our really, they wouldn't hire me. Yeah,
Sammie Roffman 5:38
I applied, and they did
Ben Silverio 5:40
not take me.
Sammie Roffman 5:41
Oh, I got I got hired because the manager used to come into my Starbucks and he would listen to me talk about movies to my co workers, because that's all I ever talked about. And I didn't even know that he would like pay him. And, like, one day he came in was like, Would you like to work at Blockbuster? And I was like, You bet your fucking ass. I do free rentals, and I have no late fees, but then I just start selling dish, because then dish bought them, and I was like, this is a little much for me, but, yeah,
Ben Silverio 6:07
I think they didn't want to. I think my local blockbuster didn't want to employ one of the vagrants that was hanging out out front of their store and skateboarding all the time. So,
Sammie Roffman 6:17
I mean, they realized that they
Ansel Burch 6:18
gave you a job, they'd lose all of the profit. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 6:22
pretty much. But yeah, I found Idiocracy in the previously viewed bin in blockbuster because, like, as a fan,
Sammie Roffman 6:32
was used. You gotta use DVD
Ben Silverio 6:35
Exactly. And like, I didn't even get the cool cover that you got. Mine was just the poster of Luke Wilson being like,
Sammie Roffman 6:43
looking up.
Ben Silverio 6:45
But you know when, when the movie came out in 2006 I like, I was just like, oh, satire. I need to have this movie in my life. And then, little did I know that it would become a reality a couple decades later, Ansel, what is your experience with Idiocracy?
Ansel Burch 7:02
I am fairly certain that I watched this movie right after it came out. I'm pretty sure that what we got was a pirated copy of this in my in my fraternity house at college. And we watched it on the on the, you know, the like big common room screen. And, yeah, I'm pretty sure we watched this one shortly after it came out. Were you Mike Judge fans? Like, either of you, like, like, super familiar with his work, because I wasn't like, Daria is the only like, I never watched king of the hill or Beavis and Butthead as a kid, but I loved Daria and so that was really my entry point for him. So I was wondering where you guys came in.
Speaker 1 7:47
Yeah,
Ben Silverio 7:48
I also was a huge Daria fan, but I did watch a little bit of Beavis and Butthead growing up, because it was just like, Goofy. Like, yeah, it seemed like the natural progression after Ren and Stimpy,
Sammie Roffman 8:00
Ren and Simpson. Yeah, MTV. So it's cool kid, you know? I think anytime I had Daria, I always felt like I was way older and cooler than everyone else.
Ansel Burch 8:10
For me, no, not at all. I saw, I saw office space after this, in fact,
Sammie Roffman 8:15
really, wow. It was just always on Comedy Central. So I feel like I have come into like that shenanigans scene 50 million times throughout my life, because it was just like, you know what Comedy Central got, like, the rights to a movie, and that's what they were playing every day. So it would get home from school, and it would always be on that scene. And so I, I think I talked about vocal Sims on the last episode, or it might have been Off mic, but shenanigans became one because of that movie. Good,
Speaker 1 8:43
yeah, I
Ben Silverio 8:45
went to an all boys Catholic high school, and my friend
Sammie Roffman 8:49
surprising to me. I did not know that I
Ben Silverio 8:53
am also not Catholic.
Sammie Roffman 8:55
Mike went to an all Catholic school too, and he's not either. So it's funny
Speaker 1 9:00
to
Ansel Burch 9:00
start with, you wouldn't be afterward, that's for
Sammie Roffman 9:02
sure. My mom certainly wasn't. So I get it,
Ben Silverio 9:06
but I had a friend who sounded like Diedrich Bader, so he would just quote office space all the time, like, Hey Peter
Sammie Roffman 9:14
quoting movies. It's like when several others came out and everyone could, you know, like, I wonder if the kids do that these days now they quote YouTube videos.
Ben Silverio 9:25
Your YouTube videos,
Sammie Roffman 9:27
yeah, like, I hear some of the shit that comes out of there. Like, I hate to sound like old man yelling at clouds, but boy, do I as of late, like I was in target. We were in Target yesterday, looking at Toys and shit, and they have a skibbity toilet toy. And I was like, What are we doing here? Guys like, again, if we're trying to avoid the fate of this movie, please don't buy your children's gift. You toilet toys.
Ansel Burch 9:52
Where, where it goes.
Sammie Roffman 9:53
That's where I draw the line. I think I
Ansel Burch 9:55
try to think of myself as someone who's fairly open minded to the the. It's, you know, even if I don't participate, I can be like, Oh, that's
Sammie Roffman 10:03
Hey, fellow kids
Speaker 1 10:04
thing
Ansel Burch 10:04
that you're into now, and I can respect that. Six, seven. I it that has shown me how old and
Sammie Roffman 10:11
they don't understand it either. That's the thing. Is. Like, when I try to ask your child to describe it to me, they can't. So it's like, I know that it's just gobbledygook and I have, like, Yeah, I do not want children. I am child, and I have nieces, and so whenever I go up to visit, I'm like, I get to get a peek into what the kids are like these days. And sometimes they're all right, and sometimes they're not.
Ansel Burch 10:37
Rental
Speaker 1 10:37
good
Ben Silverio 10:38
friend the Grinch has given the best way to disarm six, seven
Sammie Roffman 10:43
video, I saw it. I because he's actually great. Also another PSA to go to meet the Grinch. I waited an hour last year. Well worth it. Well
Ben Silverio 10:52
worth it, especially now that he's meeting with Max like
Sammie Roffman 10:56
i He was, Max was he didn't do the meet and greet with Max, but Max was available to meet, and they changed the dog, though, right as I got to the front of the line, and the other dog looked way more screen accurate. So I was a little bummed. It's the little things like that. You know, was it a screen accurate Max? But it went for my birthday last year, and he made me kiss an onion, and it was really cool,
Ben Silverio 11:18
amazing. So when a kid goes up to the Grinch, they do the six seven thing, and then he says, eight, nine,
Sammie Roffman 11:26
yeah, get him with his furry little
Speaker 1 11:30
claws,
Ben Silverio 11:31
just shut up. And he was just like, wow, that's actually really good.
Sammie Roffman 11:35
It's like Dax Shepard in this movie, like, just like, oh, like, that's it. You can respond with that. You know,
Ben Silverio 11:42
I also want to make clear, I did make a joke about DAX, Dax Shepard being a trash heap, but I
Sammie Roffman 11:51
think that's fair. He's very
Ben Silverio 11:53
good in this movie.
Sammie Roffman 11:54
Like, I mean, I don't think it's far off. I don't think it is like, is it being good? If it's not like, that far off from maybe who you are as a person. I also did notice
Speaker 1 12:07
that he
Sammie Roffman 12:08
is, it's a toilet that he is. I don't remember like noticing that as a kid, and now that I've seen Wally a million times too, I was like, they're very good double feature, wall E. Radiocracy is a good double feature that would
Speaker 1 12:23
be, yeah,
Ben Silverio 12:25
because, you know, you get the bright, shiny ending with wall E, but then over here, it's like, this is actually how it's gonna be,
Sammie Roffman 12:33
yeah, this is best case scenario. Over here,
Ansel Burch 12:36
Wally is probably the one you watch second, just
Sammie Roffman 12:41
after you've watched a scary movie and you need, like, a little something to take the edge off. It's kind of like that,
Ben Silverio 12:47
nine times out of 10, the thing to get the edge off after watching something heavy or scary or whatever, for me, is the Golden Girls.
Sammie Roffman 12:56
Oh, that's a good
Ben Silverio 12:57
just put it out there, you know, a quick little 30 minute, you know,
Sammie Roffman 13:00
those are my favorites. That's why I've seen the office a gajillion times. It's like, not even because I enjoy it at this point. It's like, it's almost like a white noise machine. It like, lulls me to calmness. It's a show I've watched a million times. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 13:15
you know, the office and friends are the ultimate white noise machines, because white people love them.
Sammie Roffman 13:20
They really do. And as a white people, I can confirm I really can. We're re watching curb your enthusiasm for the millionth time. It's one of Mike's favorite because he is Larry David, like in so it's so accurate, it's insane. But, like, we've had it on for like, hours at a time, and I never get sick of it. And I'm like, gosh, I am just a stereotypical white person. I am very aware of it, yes.
Ben Silverio 13:52
So you know, speaking of Dax Shepard, we talked about my Rudolph in the last episode, and obviously Luke Wilson, star of the movie, but there are so many other actors in this movie that I was just like, What the fuck they're in this? Like, sure, Terry Crews is big in there, but like, Steven root and Justin Long pop up, and I'm like, Are you serious?
Sammie Roffman 14:16
I think they're both great too in this, they cracked me up. Like, I love their line deliveries. I totally forgot about Justin Long. Like, that was the one that really surprised me. I was like, Oh yeah, I totally forgot he was in this movie. And it works because it's right around, did you guys ever seen strange wilderness? Yes, the one with Steve's on and, like, the big screen grab is like, Justin Long with the eyes painted over his eyes so he can sleep. Because it's, like, right around that era of Justin Long, that's right, right when I was discovering him, like when without a paddle, came out, if you've ever seen that, sure, sure, yeah. It's one of my favorites, the mid on or like, early aughts, the finding
Ansel Burch 14:52
yourself, era of Justin
Sammie Roffman 14:53
Long, yes,
Ben Silverio 14:54
oh, yeah.
Sammie Roffman 14:56
Like, pretty much right up until accepted, you know, like when. Although I have seen that movie more times than I'd care to admit, because I say, ask me about my wiener a lot. Yeah, so it's just, and it's the way he says it is that ask me about my wiener. It's so good.
Ben Silverio 15:15
This is an audio only podcast, but we just both at the same time. To the hand gesture. But like, for Steven roots character, especially after watching Barry, I'm just like, Man Stephen. But like, in my head, it was just like he's the I'm just a simple southern lawyer, except he's a judge. Now, I don't
Speaker 1 15:41
know,
Sammie Roffman 15:41
honestly, like, you know the judge scene in Mr. Toad's wild ride, yeah, that's like, what the image you reminded me of, like, when he's over the big podium. Of course, I can find any way to relate anything to Disney, and that was my like, that's what I like was reminded of during that scene. But he I love dodgeball. That's one of my favorite movies. And speaking of Justin Long, and that was, I think, probably the first time I ever saw him in anything, was dodgeball. Yeah, l for love,
Ben Silverio 16:11
man, I feel like I don't know, will I be disappointed if I re watch dodgeball? Now,
Sammie Roffman 16:16
I watch it. It's a hotel movie, because it's always playing on hotels. I've caught it several times since my youth in a hotel, and it is still a laugh riot. So it seemed with like when Ben Stiller does this character like in heavyweights, it's just, it's too good. It's so good. I love seeing him play an asshole, and it's great. It still hits. I highly suggest.
Ben Silverio 16:38
Oh my god, heavyweights. I love heavyweights so much shout out to friend of the pod. BJ, Colangelo, because of her incredible heavyweights tattoo that we brainstormed together while watching heavyweights one day, it was so good
Sammie Roffman 16:53
she has.
Ansel Burch 16:58
BJ, for sure.
Ben Silverio 17:00
Oh my god, yeah. You guys get along great.
Sammie Roffman 17:05
She writes for, she's definitely written for bloody I have definitely seen her articles come out, and I think she writes for dread central
Ben Silverio 17:11
Fangoria,
Sammie Roffman 17:13
okay, yeah, all the horror umbrella, you know, I've definitely seen her name on art. I've read a bunch of her articles before. So writing,
Ben Silverio 17:23
she's also written a great book with her wife, harmony, about sleepaway camp, which I highly recommend everyone go pick up. I'm just gonna, you know, tell everyone all the time to buy my friend's stuff,
Speaker 1 17:34
as you should.
Sammie Roffman 17:34
Hey, that's a good bud. Yeah,
Ansel Burch 17:36
and hey, with California traffic, you only live four hours from each other.
Sammie Roffman 17:41
Great. Let's
make a
date.
Ben Silverio 17:45
I have a note here that I wanted to share, because the insinuation that Idiocracy gives that pro wrestling is less civilized is both very insulting and very true. As a huge fan of professional wrestling, I will admit,
Sammie Roffman 18:06
I was a big so WWF was like my favorite thing in the world as a kid. And for my sixth birthday, my dad took me to arco arena up in Sacramento to see WWF, and I was, my hometown is called, is a town called Rocklin, and I had this huge sign that was bigger than me that said the rock has come to Rocklin, and because the rock was my favorite. So yes, I can also attest to it, but they're not wrong either. You know what I mean, like having been to one, but it's an art, okay? Because it is choreographed and it is really hard to do, and the acting and everything, it is essentially professional theater. And I die on that hill.
Ben Silverio 18:51
It is in the round. It is very story and character driven. Also, I did one day, exactly one day of pro wrestling training, and it sucks falling on that mat,
Speaker 1 19:04
I'm
Sammie Roffman 19:04
sure. It sounds hard and it looks hard those chairs also like they hit you every once in a while, I'm sure. So, yeah, I couldn't handle
Ansel Burch 19:12
it. I proposed that wrestling is our generation's opera.
Sammie Roffman 19:18
Yeah, you know what?
Ben Silverio 19:20
Totally
Sammie Roffman 19:20
like that.
Ben Silverio 19:22
I
Ansel Burch 19:22
highly specialized skills over the top. Story lines, completely ridiculous and fun. For that reason.
Sammie Roffman 19:30
It's like a soap opera, you know, it's but like, some cool makeup and costumes. Who wouldn't like that? Like, I love costumes, enormous
Ansel Burch 19:39
scale. Yeah,
Sammie Roffman 19:40
yeah. You
Ben Silverio 19:41
know, if you love reality shows and drag race like you got to check out pro wrestling,
Sammie Roffman 19:46
yes, I absolutely concur.
Ben Silverio 19:49
It's too bad that we don't live in the same place anymore. Sammy, because I would totally take you to a wrestling show. There's a lot of good wrestling in Southern California.
Sammie Roffman 19:59
I. And I have no one here that I have met that would be willing to do that. So thank you for that offer. Maybe when you come to visit next
Ben Silverio 20:10
so things that don't hold up very well about Idiocracy, but should
Ansel Burch 20:16
maybe do it about the movie itself,
Ben Silverio 20:20
maybe, I guess so.
Ansel Burch 20:22
Like, how do we feel about the characters? I mean, granted, they're all aside from Luke Wilson. They're all giant caricatures,
Sammie Roffman 20:29
yeah, and even he is okay. So, like, I think Luke Wilson, in general, is a caricature of himself. Like, we do that. Like the like, Can I do the Family Stone commercial comes up on our ads a lot. And in the preview, he's like, You got to let your freak flag fly. And so that is, like, something that we say, like, Mike can actually do a very good Luke Wilson impression. I will give him that. And he has to go through me to get impressions improved, because he tries to do a Danny DeVito one, and it's really bad. And I have
Speaker 1 20:59
to, oh
Sammie Roffman 20:59
my God, every time I'm like, Stop doing that. It's not good. But his Luke Wilson, is very good, and so every time we watch something with him in it, like old school is one of my favorite movies. I love that movie on ironically, like I used to fall asleep to its to it all the time, that this menu that, like, would start over and over every time. So that is just something that's echoed throughout my childhood. And so has his voice, you know, whether it's him or his brother, because they have such similar voices, you know, Ka Chow. So it's, I've been hearing those voices for my entire life. So it's hard not to become like a Clint Eastwood or like an Arnold Schwarzenegger, where, like, their voices become who they are, kind of, yeah, you know, ready to be, like, parodied on Family Guy type of voice. So that's always what I think of when I think of Luke Wilson. Poor guy hasn't had, like, a really great role, I think in a really long time, like, I would love to see his, like, full acting chops. He's definitely the
Ansel Burch 21:59
lesser Wilson, for sure.
Sammie Roffman 22:01
Yes, there's, there are other brothers in this too. I think he's the guy that he is fighting during the monster truck rally. I think is there other? I think that is his other, from what I can remember, when
Speaker 1 22:16
I was wow.
Sammie Roffman 22:16
I was very stone, and it was Andrew Wilson, so I could be okay. I was right. I'm not. I got a memory on me. So he's the
Ansel Burch 22:26
older brother of both Owen and Luke. So He's the eldest, wow, poor guy,
Sammie Roffman 22:32
yeah, didn't this is his only claim to fame, I feel like so. But I mean, no, could be worse,
Ansel Burch 22:40
he was in Rushmore and the Royal Tenenbaums.
Sammie Roffman 22:44
Okay, so he's because Wes Anderson loves the Wilson brother. I mean, Owen, so he loves the Wilson that checks out. Yeah, because, oh, Darjeeling, limited is so good. Okay, so I have seen Luke Wilson's acting chops, but that's like, probably the only one I could think of and Royal Tenenbaums. Okay? So he's been in good movies, a lot of bad ones. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 23:06
because it's just like, other than Royal Tenenbaums, I think Idiocracy does immediately come to mind when I think of him. And the fact that he's cast here as, like the average Joe, quite literally, is such a good fit for him. I don't know, like, who else during the 2000s was more average than Luke Wilson,
Sammie Roffman 23:27
Vince Vaughn. I feel like kind of was going for that type of average guy, like, you know, with like and like Favaro. I feel like, when I think of because I think of Swingers, okay, I think that's probably where my brain is going, yeah, yeah. But I do think that's a good argument. Like he was the, you know, lead of a lot of comedies for us, so I think that's why we he but he's not average Joe, because average Joe's dodge ball. That's why I think of Vince Vaughn. I think,
Ansel Burch 23:53
Oh, true. Well, that's
Sammie Roffman 23:55
the name of their team. I think
Ansel Burch 23:56
you're absolutely right, though, that that is 1,000,000% Vince Vaughn's whole shtick is like, there's nothing special about me. If I'm in a movie, you can bet there's nothing special about my character. I'm here.
Sammie Roffman 24:09
I'm gonna get the girl at the end,
Ansel Burch 24:10
I'm gonna come out. Okay, but nothing special over here, even in the movie where he plays a super spy, he is the least special super spy,
Sammie Roffman 24:20
even in the movie where he plays Santa's brother like he's, you know, the average brother. It's not a very good Christmas movie, although
Ben Silverio 24:33
when he has to play a teenage girl on the run from
Sammie Roffman 24:37
serial killer, he is incredible. So I will give him that
Ben Silverio 24:40
his best performance.
Sammie Roffman 24:42
And it's also a testament that I, like, know, all of his politics, and yet, like, could forget about it. While I was watching freaky, which isn't something I can usually do, I always remember at the end. But while I was watching it, I was like, like, it felt like I was watching OG Vince Vaughn again without having. All of these preconceived notions, you know, and he was really good at it, too. So good
Ben Silverio 25:06
it's, it's wild to me how good some of these terrible people are at acting.
Sammie Roffman 25:12
Yeah, I think that's like par for the course. As far as Hollywood goes,
Ansel Burch 25:17
the entire job to pretend to be a different person,
Sammie Roffman 25:21
a good person. Yeah, some of them have gotten alarmingly good at it.
Ansel Burch 25:29
Yeah, not, not everybody can be Christopher Reeves, who is, who is just as good as his character.
Sammie Roffman 25:35
Or, you know what? Actually, I think David Corn sweat doesn't look like he's ever harmed a fly.
Ansel Burch 25:40
Corn sweat.
Sammie Roffman 25:41
So if we're staying in mind with the Superman vibe,
Ansel Burch 25:44
you were talking to two early adopters of the corn sweat,
Ben Silverio 25:47
absolutely.
Sammie Roffman 25:48
Oh, did you What did? What brought you in? Was it Hollywood? And what that Ryan Murphy show? Or what was
Ben Silverio 25:53
No, he did a time travel movie.
Sammie Roffman 25:56
Oh,
Ansel Burch 25:57
did,
Sammie Roffman 25:58
which is titled, What?
Ben Silverio 25:59
It's the greatest hits. It's on Hulu,
Sammie Roffman 26:03
okay, I'm gonna look it up.
Ben Silverio 26:04
It's very sad, but it's pretty good, because when he got cast as Superman, we were both just like, I'm sorry, from this
Ansel Burch 26:15
guy,
Sammie Roffman 26:15
that's our boy, yeah,
Ansel Burch 26:17
the guy whose name we made fun of in our podcast, well,
Sammie Roffman 26:20
and he's so good, I literally went to the Warner Brothers store just so I could, like pose with all their dumb props and shit after that movie. And I was not into I'm a Batman girl, so I did not think I was gonna like it, and I fucking loved it. I think it's an argument for him. Yes,
Ben Silverio 26:39
I have gone on record many times saying how much I don't like Superman, but the fact that I love
Speaker 1 26:45
his
Ben Silverio 26:46
super Max, yeah,
Sammie Roffman 26:47
he's too he has too many powers. When you play him on DC versus Mortal Kombat, you can't play Anyone against him, because he just gets you. And it's not fair. And I need a character that has, you know something, and obviously his kryptonite. I know, okay, I'm aware, but no one can just get their hands on
Ansel Burch 27:05
kryptonite. Do you want to know why kryptonite is a thing, though? Because it was not originally a thing.
Sammie Roffman 27:11
Is it because of what I just said? He needed a, you know, something, to make him defeatable? It
Ansel Burch 27:16
was not a clever like, we need to make this guy have a flaw. It was in the radio show. Days when Superman was a radio show, the actor who played Superman needed a week off. He was just like, I forget if he was sick or he had somewhere he had to
Sammie Roffman 27:34
be. It's always something like that, like so
Speaker 1 27:38
they
Ansel Burch 27:38
had another actor come in and play Superman for a while, and to explain why His voice sounded a little bit different, they gave him kryptonite poisoning.
Sammie Roffman 27:49
I wonder if bizarro Superman existed at this point, because why wouldn't you have just been like, it's bizarro Superman.
Ansel Burch 27:56
Bizarro Superman was a thing. Yet this was like, super. Thank
Sammie Roffman 28:00
God. They gave him something okay, because he needed a little, like, wrench thrown
Ansel Burch 28:04
it, yeah? What a beautiful piece of, like,
Sammie Roffman 28:08
accidental trivia
Ansel Burch 28:10
writing, yeah, big fan cereal.
Ben Silverio 28:14
I'm so glad that someone else is on the podcast for once that agrees with me about Superman.
Sammie Roffman 28:19
I have been very anti Superman my entire life. My husband loves Smallville, and I only like, started watching it because I like, I love the seat, I love garbage. CW shows. Kay, I watched a lot of their superhero shows, and because I was like, it was like, The X Files, because it's a lot of the same show runners, and they get Monster of the Week episodes. So I was like, I'm sold. I'll watch it, but it wasn't because of Superman. It's never because of Superman.
Ben Silverio 28:44
Oh, God. Now looking back, I remember watching Lois and Clark because I liked the non Superman part of the Superman
Sammie Roffman 28:53
story,
Ben Silverio 28:54
and now Dean Kane sucks.
Sammie Roffman 28:57
They I mean, yeah, again. Back to it all comes back to sometimes good actors don't think good things,
Speaker 1 29:03
right? Yeah,
Ansel Burch 29:05
especially the famous ones. Turns out lot of them narcissists. Who knew?
Sammie Roffman 29:10
Yeah, it almost comes with the territory. I almost feel like to get to any sort of fame, you almost have to be, you know, a little obsessed with yourself, not something I could ever I'm the opposite of obsessed with myself, which is full of self loathing. So I could never get there. I don't think,
Ben Silverio 29:32
okay. So something else I wanted to talk about was the use of certain words in Idiocracy that were very jarring that I
Sammie Roffman 29:44
forgot a little early and brought that up last episode. Sorry, guys, no, it's just like the first thing that I thought of like, because when the first, because it said pretty early on, like they, you know, they start throwing them out pretty early on. And at first, my initial, you know, human reaction is. This didn't age well. And then I started thinking about it, and I was like, actually, no, I think there's absolutely an argument to be made that this is aging well, and that says more about our society than it does. I think about Mike judges writing at the time, I don't think. I don't necessarily, I don't know. Don't quote me on this, because I haven't done my research into Mike Judge, but I feel like I would know at this point. I don't think he's super problematic in any way, so I fingers crossed, at least I would like to have that, but I don't think, I don't know. I think it was, it was just the era, you know, and he saw that we were using like he makes the idiot say these words, you know what I mean. So I do think that's fair, at least Yes. So
Ben Silverio 30:43
that is kind of where I came out on it. Because, like, yeah, sure, it was common vernacular in the early 2000s to use the F slur or the R word. But like, I think Mike Judge made the very specific choice to keep that in there to show that we shouldn't be doing it, you know. So, I mean, maybe I'm giving him too much credit for this, but I think it does kind of read like that, you know,
Speaker 1 31:07
yeah,
Ben Silverio 31:08
even the the one scientist guy who drops the N word after talking about pimps,
Sammie Roffman 31:14
he's a bad guy, you know, guy like, even like, and when Luke Wilson's character uses it at the end, it's to appeal to this audience that he knows is going to understand it like because that's the thing is, Rome wasn't built in a day, right? So he's not going to change this, the this whole society's verbiage in one week, you know? So I do think, you know, I don't like it, but I think it's fair, and I maybe am making this so I feel better about the movie, and I feel better about the person who created it. But just given what I see online on a pretty regular basis, it's it's coming like it went away. We weren't using these words for a while, and then it has come back with a vengeance. It is so
Ben Silverio 31:59
disappointing to see some of that stuff come back,
Sammie Roffman 32:03
even in like, like memes were, like, typical like accounts where I was like, Why are all of a sudden, you saying these words now, now I can't engage with your content.
Ben Silverio 32:12
Yeah, you know, just kidding, I don't
Ansel Burch 32:16
like you anymore. Yes,
Sammie Roffman 32:17
exactly.
Ben Silverio 32:19
Gosh, but you know, something has to be said for Mike Judge to be a pretty decent dude, for him to get over Hank Hill, who is
Sammie Roffman 32:30
like
Ben Silverio 32:30
a traditionally conservative Texan, yet so many people love king of the hill, because it's almost like all in the family, where Hank is like learning
Sammie Roffman 32:41
about, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, totally. And we relate to that as a society. You know, he knows how to I feel like he knows how to talk to an audience. And I don't think he comes off as pretentious or superior thinking to me. I think he kind of calls him as I sees them types, and I appreciate that, because that's just always how I've been, is that, like, just because they are lower income doesn't mean they're not intelligent, or that they can't learn, you know, or that people can't change. And I think he knew how to speak to a large population of people without making them feel dumb,
Ben Silverio 33:17
right?
Ansel Burch 33:17
Yeah, and his made them feel seen. And
Sammie Roffman 33:20
yes,
Ansel Burch 33:21
exactly. And then, you know, enlarged their their space. So, yeah,
Sammie Roffman 33:25
well, there's, like, a really large argument online, which I wasn't aware of when I was doing, like, when I started doing research for this movie today, that, like, he's saying that it's like eugenics, because he's saying that, you know, stupid people make stupid people. And I don't think that's at all what the messaging is. I think it's more of like, when you don't give people the supplies to learn and, like, teach them how to read, and you're not going to teach your kids how to read, you know? So I don't think it's that it's a genetic thing. I think it's a societal thing, and that, like, it's a failure on our part, not on the genes that are being passed down, if that makes sense. Like, because I, I was kind of jarred at that argument, like, you know, especially because it's such a unfortunate hot button issue right now, Miss, thanks. Miss Sydney Sweeney, so I was like, Oh, I didn't at all take that impression from this movie. Am I wrong? Like, was, am I like? Was that naive of me not to think that? But then, as I started like, looking into it a little bit more, I was like, no, he's saying that stupid people typically can't teach their kids not to be stupid, you know? So it's and if teachers are stupid in this world and doctors are stupid in this world, there's no chance for a kid to learn, so in turn, they're not gonna be very bright?
Speaker 1 34:41
Yeah,
Ansel Burch 34:42
I grew up in a part of the world where anti intellectualism was rampant.
Sammie Roffman 34:48
It was like, especially in the early aughts, it was stupid to be smart. Like, it was like, what are you gonna read? And it's like, yeah, I am, because I like to be able to form sentences eventually, yeah.
Ansel Burch 34:59
And. I mean, I remember, I remember how hard it was to be the kid who liked to read on the bus.
Sammie Roffman 35:05
Yeah, me too,
Ansel Burch 35:06
in small town, Ohio. So this, this feels even more and perhaps for you as well. Nor Cal, I can, I know has, has pockets of that sort of,
Sammie Roffman 35:16
Oh, it does. I'm not from a it's a very red town, I guess is what I'll say. Like the cities are just like in Illinois, just like in any major state, it's the cities are great. You a little further off into the terrain, it's not so great. Yeah,
Ansel Burch 35:31
I grew up in a town that didn't have any street lights until I left. So,
Sammie Roffman 35:37
oh, wow,
Ansel Burch 35:38
yeah. Very tall, very small,
Sammie Roffman 35:40
yeah, and
Ansel Burch 35:41
the minds matched it. So it was, yeah, it was
Sammie Roffman 35:43
very high school. Had one black student, and he was a French exchange student, so that I was like, how, like, we were, like, the Hicks our school, like, we walked my I'm gonna name it. It's called Del Oro High School. It's in Loomis, and we literally walked in, like dirt roads to our classrooms, and people wore cowboy boots and cowboy hats. I couldn't get out of there faster, like, the faster I get out there. I literally my junior year was like, I'm doing independent study, and I am out. It was just not the place for growth. And there are a lot of places still like that, even more so than, you know, 10 years ago when I was in high school. So it's it's definitely true to life, as we've been saying a lot in these last two episodes.
Ben Silverio 36:24
Yeah, you know, I mean, I guess now is as good of time as any to talk about how, you know, with Mike Judge being a pioneer of adult animation, thanks to be for some butt heading king of the hill. You know, everyone always talks about how Simpsons and South Park predicted the future, but unfortunately, Idiocracy, I think, might be the thing that really, really nailed it. I mean, like, when you see President Camacho is White House, you see a large chunk of the White House missing. I'm like, is that the East
Sammie Roffman 36:54
way? No, that scene in particular was like, I was like, this is a GOP event, like I we've seen like after the, you know, the the whole Charlie Kirk thing, that the celebrations that were put on by them literally looked like this. I was like, so everything's so gaudy and like, bright and gold and like, it really is like in so many ancient civilizations. What the what it looks like before the fall of one is all I will say.
Ben Silverio 37:30
The giant necklaces that the cabinet is wearing, oh, my god,
Sammie Roffman 37:33
representing the extreme
Ansel Burch 37:37
court is the one I had forgotten about.
Sammie Roffman 37:40
Like, the people that they hired, like, for his cabinet, like, where I was like, oh, yeah, we would never, you know, like, watching this in 2007 I'm like, we would never let anyone like this. Certainly wouldn't pick the
Ansel Burch 37:53
people who hate that thing the most be in charge,
Sammie Roffman 37:55
yes, or like, people that are quite literally so underqualified, like that. They've never, they should never be in the running for a job like this. Like, I was also thinking about how dirty everything looks, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's probably because there are no health regulations, which, oh, I don't know is happening now, and we're getting food recalled every two days, and our airplanes are falling out of our out of the sky, which makes me think our pets heads are falling off,
Ben Silverio 38:23
just like seeing how the FCC and the FDA being bought by an energy drink company is like,
Sammie Roffman 38:34
not that far off.
Ben Silverio 38:35
That's not far off. Plausible.
Sammie Roffman 38:37
Fucking RFP is telling us to eat raw meat and milk right out the udder, dude. So yeah, no, I'm like, This is not that unbelievable for me. It also like Donald, he drinks like Coke and filet of fish by the hundreds every day. So again, the the the chronic use of fast food is also really relevant here, because he's there's a lot of fast food getting catered to the White House, which is in a sentence, I thought I'd say,
Speaker 1 39:08
yeah, yeah, no,
Ben Silverio 39:11
that's true,
Sammie Roffman 39:13
and I'm a McDonald's lover. Okay, so that should say everything,
Ansel Burch 39:16
no judgment on on fast food. But as a president, you have a chef who can make whatever you
Sammie Roffman 39:25
want
Ansel Burch 39:25
at any time of the day,
Sammie Roffman 39:27
the grossest thing on any menu. He likes the filet of fish. No one likes the filet of fish. Yeah, I like that. Should be grounds for just straight to dismissal. Yes. If you were asked do, what's your favorite meal at McDonald's, and you're like, Oh, the Long John Silver's meal? No, like, gross. I can't I can't relate to you. Have
Ansel Burch 39:50
either of you ever worked a fast food job?
Sammie Roffman 39:53
No, I worked at Starbucks for almost 10 years, which I will say it was a drive through it. Fast food, okay, but you didn't serve fish very nice. No fish sandwiches
Ansel Burch 40:05
from from my time in the in the Burger King drive through. Let me assure you that the last thing you should ever order, unless it's Lent, is the fish
Sammie Roffman 40:14
sandwich. Sorry, I struggle to order fish from places like a four star restaurant. You know what I mean? Like, it's such a tricky thing. It's smelly, and I love Burger King because I love their toys, but and their chicken sandwiches are delectable, but, um, I really would never think to be like unless there was quite literally a gun to my head. I don't think I could order the fish at a fast food place.
Ben Silverio 40:39
The last time I ordered any kind of seafood at a fast food place was the fried shrimp from Red Hot ranch in Chicago. And, you know, I feel like, since it's not like a major chain, I'm a little safer
Sammie Roffman 40:54
there the I love Panda Express, okay? Like, sure, it's shameful. Okay? I know there are plenty of so many great Chinese restaurants to eat that, and sometimes I'm like, You know what? I just want some pea Express. And I love their their honey shrimp is really, really good, and I know that it's been frozen and probably sitting in a bag back there. I'm aware, but it just feels different than slapping on some tartar sauce onto a weird bun and calling it cool, yeah,
Ben Silverio 41:22
no, that's very true. Oh man.
Ansel Burch 41:25
But also that's the one that doesn't get changed over very often, and nobody ever orders it. So you, I can guarantee you that filet of fish has been in that warming tray at least two or three times longer than it's supposed
Sammie Roffman 41:38
to Oh no. Oh god, yeah, no, thank you for that. I mean, I wouldn't have ordered it anyways, but you have now just that
Ansel Burch 41:47
it's gross. It's gross.
Sammie Roffman 41:50
It is really gross.
Ben Silverio 41:55
Speaking of really gross, I would like to point out that even though things are really shitty in the world of Idiocracy, they still don't rely on generative AI as heavily as we have come to like
Sammie Roffman 42:07
she can still paint, you know, and they, they're still giving like. I'll take that. I will take that, although if you're watching Pluribus at all, it's the new Apple show from Vince Gilligan. It is the most anti AI thing I have ever like it is, it'll send a chill down your spine just how relevant it is right now, I'm very admit anti AI, if you need
Ben Silverio 42:29
absolutely
Sammie Roffman 42:29
robot to tell you how to grocery shop, you need help. But what should I get at the grocery store? Like, like, I don't know. What are you hungry for? Ask your intuition? Yeah, yes. Exactly, exactly.
Ben Silverio 42:44
One of the one of the commercials that, like pisses me off so much is like, I'll get this ad for, I think it's Microsoft's AI and be like, we only have an hour. What things should we see in this museum? Bitch? Go ask someone. Favorite
Sammie Roffman 43:01
thing is to collect is pamphlets from places. I love a fucking pamphlet, and I love a map, and I want to open it, and I want to pretend like I'm Indiana Jones in your museum and find my shit for myself like I don't. I don't need a computer to plan. Thank you. You get it. That's what if we were talking earlier about, what would be in our drawers in our homes, infinite pamphlets in mine, all the from Star Wars night. I went to Star Wars night at Disneyland twice, last or this last year, and I grabbed a pamphlet each time. And were they different? No, no, but I still wanted
Ansel Burch 43:34
it. And let me tell you, as a former museum employee, you are robbing
Sammie Roffman 43:38
man. You worked everywhere
Ansel Burch 43:41
life. You are robbing yourself of some amazing expertise by not talking to the people who work there. Because, let me tell you, nothing will make you a specialist, like having to stand next to one dumb thing for six hours at a time.
Sammie Roffman 43:55
Yes, exactly, yeah. I don't care your age. It might be a really nice conversation, like when I find the cast members, I try to look for like, the older, the better. No offense to young people, you know. But like they tend to know, you know, because they've probably worked, they usually work there a long time, and they also will look you in the eye and greet you. I
Ben Silverio 44:15
also love that you called them cast members, because
Sammie Roffman 44:18
that's what they are. If I was talking about Universal Studios, they'd be they're just employees. Okay? Disneyland has cast members
Ben Silverio 44:25
absolutely 100% I, although I did get to go to Epic universe during my last trip to Florida,
Sammie Roffman 44:35
I want very badly
Ben Silverio 44:36
the amount of immersion in in the the Dark Universe section of the park,
Sammie Roffman 44:44
I can't wait it like Mike's family is lives in Florida and and just Florida in general is not typically somewhere. I'm like, Oh man, yeah. So typically finagle, a. Disney trip when we go, that's what I get out of it. And so we, we are planning on going. I want to wait until hurricanes like because we last time we went, it was during hurricane season. It was in August, and it was wretched, just one of the worst theme park experiences of my whole life. And then the time before that, I got sun poisoning because it was, like, one of my first times in Florida, barf, and, like, it was, I was so sick. We like, and then the park universal closes so early sometimes, so, like, I couldn't go back in. And it's the greatest tragedy of Mike's life that I have not been on the ET ride yet. So we have to go back.
Speaker 1 45:33
Oh,
Ben Silverio 45:33
you absolutely have,
Sammie Roffman 45:35
I know they take it away, and I was so sick. Spielberg has it in his contract that they cannot take it away. And although I could see them fucking shit up, you know, who knows, especially if Netflix tries to buy them, but because, you know, there's a monopoly on our hands. Well,
Ansel Burch 45:51
by the time this comes out, we'll know how it happens, but
Sammie Roffman 45:54
I will see yes, in the space time continuum right now, we don't know how this will shake out, and I never thought that Paramount would be our only hope, but here we are.
Ben Silverio 46:04
God, I mean,
Ansel Burch 46:05
if that means that I don't have to streaming services to watch Star Trek, then I'll consider
Sammie Roffman 46:11
it. Here's the thing, though, is we're basically just finding our way going back to cable. So you guys are just fixing a problem you yourselves created. And so, yeah, I would, I would love for it all to be on one streaming service that was just my cable subscription.
Ben Silverio 46:27
Yeah,
Ansel Burch 46:28
for $100 I'll just,
Sammie Roffman 46:31
yes, just give me TV.
Ansel Burch 46:34
Such a saving at this point.
Sammie Roffman 46:37
Yes, yes, it's ridiculous. And you know much I you know what? I would bet. I bet you, Netflix exists in the Idiocracy world. There's no way it owns everything. Amazon, Facebook and Netflix are probably the top conglomerates over in this world, if we're relating the two.
Ben Silverio 46:54
Ow, my balls, brought to you by Amazon. Yes, exactly, because they produce that Mr. Beast show, don't they?
Sammie Roffman 47:03
Yeah, squid game. And it looks I can't like, then I read all these people, like, contractually, they got really hurt, and he wasn't paying. It's a mess. It's a but I'm also that's on you for signing up for a show with Mr. Beast.
Ansel Burch 47:15
Mr. Beast is a bad person. Yeah,
Sammie Roffman 47:18
he's a Mr. Bad Yes,
Ben Silverio 47:21
although, if he does want to give me $10,000 for doing nothing,
Sammie Roffman 47:26
but he's a Batman villain, guys, come on, just like everybody else right now, I swear, like some days I'm like, I feel like I'm reading a graphic novel every time I open my app. So and a bad one,
Ansel Burch 47:40
yeah,
Ben Silverio 47:41
yeah. And it's not like they're like the fun villains like kite man or Calendar Man,
Sammie Roffman 47:46
exactly. I know they're
Ben Silverio 47:48
all,
Sammie Roffman 47:48
who's the guy with the because his name's probably just polka dot man, the guy with the polka dots. Yeah? Okay, yeah. Polka Dot guy. I like him.
Ansel Burch 47:58
David does. Melchen, yeah,
Sammie Roffman 48:00
yes. What a
Ben Silverio 48:01
great dude.
Ansel Burch 48:04
Oh, I would bet have you? Have you met David Dustin?
Ben Silverio 48:08
I have, yes,
Ansel Burch 48:09
I know.
Sammie Roffman 48:10
I've seen him at many place. I He was literally at the I'm pretty sure I saw him at the Silent
Ansel Burch 48:16
Night based on your show, I would not be surprised if you have run into him a number of times
Sammie Roffman 48:22
we've seen I've definitely seen him at a lot of premieres. I'm not really the type of person that, like, sees a celebrity and feels like I get uncomfortable. I shake really bad. So if I look up to you in any way, shape or form, I'm gonna go up to you like, oh my god, I love your work. Like, it's really hard. So I try to tend to not have those. Like one time I ran into Catherine Newton in the bathroom, and I was wearing a Bride of Frankenstein purse, and she was like, Oh, I love your purse. And I was like, Oh, I love you. And I was like, Oh, that was weird. Like, I'm sorry. It was really odd. And then the one time out of con i met Karen Gillan, and I'm in the picture. I'm like, I'm Bear hugging her, and no one else did that. And you can see on her face of like, why is this bitch fucking touching me like this? And that's like, every time, like, anyone sees that photo, they can like, and they know the story. They're like, Oh, she looks like, so uncomfortable. And I was just like, please give me a hug. So yeah, I am. I avoid the celebrities at
Ben Silverio 49:26
all costs, if I can all tear though, you know, she was
Sammie Roffman 49:30
very nice. She let me do it, you know, but like, after the fact, I look into her eyes and it's sheer terror, this crazy girl, because I have this shit eating grin on my face, and it just yeah, I get a little over excited. So, I mean, it was, you know, it was her, it was Nebula, like in the flesh, it was Amy Pond, like, how do I not freak out?
Ben Silverio 49:53
Oh, yes, trust me, I also adequately freaked out when I was next to her. These are, right? On table interviews, just like, oh, man,
Sammie Roffman 50:03
couldn't do it. I just, I would be a puddle. So, yeah, to answer your question, have seen him? Never talked to him, but we did. We even covered Late Night with the devil on lady killers and because I loved that movie. And so, yeah, I really love his work. I really love prisoners, too. If you've ever seen that movie, he's really creepy in that too, and always plays creepy guy. That's kind of his MO and I appreciate it, because we the world could use, you know, a good character actor. We don't get them as much as we used
Speaker 1 50:33
to.
Ben Silverio 50:33
Nobody's hiring Crispin Glover for whatever reason.
Sammie Roffman 50:36
And I think Willard is great. So, yeah, hot take, but I love Willard,
Ben Silverio 50:45
and honestly, without him, we wouldn't have some of the protections for actors that we have today. So I love back to the future, but the fact that all that stuff happened is kind of still really shitty.
Sammie Roffman 50:55
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Ben Silverio 50:57
So we should talk about the time travel mechanism of the movie, because, like, you did allude to it, that it's not really, like a real machine or anything. They just, like, put them under he
Sammie Roffman 51:09
hibernated,
Ben Silverio 51:10
yeah, exactly.
Ansel Burch 51:12
But there's time travel at the end. I had forgotten
Sammie Roffman 51:15
time machine. It's just a roller roller coaster. Don't it's
Ansel Burch 51:23
there. It's a time
Sammie Roffman 51:26
machine. But still, okay, I'll give it to you.
Ansel Burch 51:31
But yes, let's talk about about being cryo, frozen for 500 years.
Ben Silverio 51:36
God, is that something that you would want like, I don't know if I'd want to live over 50 years into the future. You know,
Sammie Roffman 51:44
I have a hard time grasping my own time on Earth, so I don't think I could handle that. I also just the idea, like, I don't even like getting put under anesthetic. It's the I don't like, like being put under I don't like being in control. And who's to say that? Like, they even were talking about it's like the shit that they are injecting them with. They don't know what it is. This is all like. It all feels very experimental, and it doesn't sound like what Walt Disney would have gotten had he been frozen. You know, maybe I might take that just because of the money, like I know that's being invested in it. This not so much. If the army asked me to do it, it's going to be a no.
Ben Silverio 52:21
But, like, because of Demolition Man, like knowing that John Spartan was awake in there and could see stuff. That's
Sammie Roffman 52:29
hell.
Ben Silverio 52:30
He was frozen. That's hellish, exactly,
Ansel Burch 52:32
nightmare.
Ben Silverio 52:33
Are there any other points about Idiocracy that we have missed?
Sammie Roffman 52:38
I will say not to like, I know we'll wrap up here, because this is probably one of your longer episodes we've been talking about Disney. So the one thing I do want to say Mike. Mike Judge came up with the idea for the film while he was visiting Disneyland. Actually, he was with his family, and he saw two mothers with kids and strollers who were fighting and cursing at each other, and he thought, wouldn't it be horrible if humanity was like this in the future? And as someone who has been you know, is an annual pass holder. I go to Disneyland all the time, as we've been talking about, the people watching is one of is part of the entertainment. It's quite literally part, if I could put that on my like, little app of things to do. I could pencil in people watching amongst every ride. So I do think that's like, you see, you see people borderline getting divorced in on the line for Peter Pan's Flight. You know what I mean? Like, you'll see a lot of different walks of life there. So I think the perfect place for this movie to have been born is Disneyland.
Ben Silverio 53:40
That's so perfect. I love that so much. And you know, in the end, we get this message that I feel like, Judge is saying, like, it's hard for one person to save the world, but at least they can get the ball rolling. And I think that's really what we should take away from this. Because, like, right now, we're, we're in this, well, we're in the thick of this shit. And like, we have a little ways to go. But you know, if we stop fighting, then no one's going to be able to keep the ball rolling. So the fact that we have people that are working towards not ending up in this future is a good start, because, you know, fuck ice, fuck Donald Trump
Sammie Roffman 54:21
and
Ben Silverio 54:22
yeah, like, Fuck generative AI to begin with,
Sammie Roffman 54:26
absolutely. It's like Bruce Springsteen says you can't start a fire without a spark. You know what? I mean, someone's got to do it.
Ben Silverio 54:32
Absolutely. Oh, man, that was that was good. This was a good conversation. Yeah?
Speaker 1 54:38
Oh my
Sammie Roffman 54:38
god, yes.
Ben Silverio 54:40
Hopefully you're not sick of us by now, but you can find us on the internet. I am at B silverial 20 on the platforms that I wish to be found on.
Speaker 1 54:49
Give
Ansel Burch 54:51
us a search, you'll find us.
Ben Silverio 54:53
Yeah,
Sammie Roffman 54:54
and I am Sammy Rothman again. You can find me at S R K, doll, that's s r, k, D, A. Ll at all of the things. You can find me on Instagram, letterbox and Twitter, and you can find me over on the lady killers, a feminine rage podcast. We are the Lady K pod on Instagram and Twitter as well, where we cover feminine rage flicks every week. And it's pretty fun over there on the bloody disgusting Podcast Network,
Ben Silverio 55:18
go listen to their Anna and the apocalypse episode.
Sammie Roffman 55:20
I watched that movie twice in a 24 hour span. I loved it so much I had never seen it. And I love that you just brought that up because it has been one of my favorite movies
Ansel Burch 55:29
we've watched as of late. Hell yeah. All right, that's an endorsement. And I am at the indecisionist on all of the social media platforms I can be bothered to be on, which is mostly the meta platforms and blue sky. And please check out the totally free online TTRPG convention that I run every single month. It is free. It is online. You don't have to go anywhere, you don't have to pay anything. What else do I have to tell you, chances are good that right about now is when sign ups are opening, based on when this episode should be released, so head on over to TTRPG, pickupcon.com if you're still
Ben Silverio 56:04
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Ansel Burch 56:12
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Ben Silverio 56:26
Yes, be sure to tune in next week as we bring to you some edutainment before saying goodbye to Idiocracy for the month. Time to party brought to you by Carl's Jr, except not really. I'm more of a jack the box guy, and I miss it every day because I love curly brace. We won't endorse you, but we will take your plan absolutely anyway. Be excellent to each other and
Sammie Roffman 56:50
party on dudes you.
