Terminator Genisys: Part 1
Rachel Granda-Gluski, Ben Silverio, and Ansel Burch are pop culture observers/ content creators/ excellent friends who are ready to travel back and forth through time as many times as it takes to stop the robots even if we become robots ourselves in the process.
We’re kicking off the month with our Time 2 Party party favors, drinking and smoking rules to help you get through your viewing of this movie destined to be remembered as “the one that doesn’t fit into continuity or try to”.
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Next week, we’re keeping the wheels on the ground rolling with our review of the movie, Jai Courtney and all. Until then, make sure you’re subscribed, because it’s always #Time2Party
Transcript
Ben Silverio 0:07
Hey, I'm Ben Silverio.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 0:09
I'm Rachel Granda-Gluski, and
Ansel Burch 0:10
I'm Ansel Burch, and it's
Rachel Granda-Gluski 0:13
Time 2 Party
Ansel Burch 0:16
we're not doctors. We don't give medical advice. Please direct responsibly. This episode was recorded 820, 25
Ben Silverio 0:25
see that? One's a lot easier because it's just that was, yeah, much better. It's kind of hard not to remember that one
Ansel Burch 0:38
is that our new litmus test is, is theme songs that Ben can remember, I guess
Ben Silverio 0:42
so. It's, I guess, Park Back to the Future sometimes. Well, I sure hope it's more than sometimes just
Rachel Granda-Gluski 0:54
random occasions when you forget Back to the Future. Right
Ben Silverio 0:59
party people, welcome back to time to party. This your first time to the party. Welcome. We have snacks sometimes, yeah, like every good party should
Rachel Granda-Gluski 1:11
That's right, this time.
Ben Silverio 1:17
Yeah, words, are hard. It's like, it's like we speak for a living, right? That's like we do anyway.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 1:32
Quota of talking today actually, Oh,
Ben Silverio 1:35
great. So we're just gonna make general noises. We're all gonna do our best Jai Courtney impressions today, just noises that pass for acting. I
Rachel Granda-Gluski 1:48
love that. The slander has started already. It's always in
Ansel Burch 1:50
a room with somebody who's a big fan, and we all have to be polite about it, so
Ben Silverio 1:54
we just go,
Ansel Burch 1:59
I mean,
Ben Silverio 2:03
if this is your first time with us here at Time to party, you know, we here's how we do things. Our first episode, we like to provide some party favors for our audience. You know, if you would like to revisit a movie or even watch it for the first time, we have some drinking and smoking rules to help you get through it. Our second episode is where we dive into our review of the movie, and, you know, the actors who suck in them,
Ansel Burch 2:32
and the ones that are good,
Ben Silverio 2:34
also the ones that are good. Yes. And Episode Three is our edgy tainment episode, where we'd like to take a very shallow dive into some topic that was inspired by the movie that we were watching for the month. And this month very shallow. We have an incredible returning guest. We have Rachel granted glski, Hi, Rachel. Hi. How have you been since we last saw you?
Rachel Granda-Gluski 3:00
Oh, you know, just trying to survive in this dumpster fire of world. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 3:06
time stream, that's good.
Ansel Burch 3:10
It's all anybody can ask for. It's
Rachel Granda-Gluski 3:13
showing the worst timeline. You know, oh, man,
Ben Silverio 3:15
see, this is all Jai Courtney's fault.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 3:20
Hey, if that's everything up,
Ansel Burch 3:23
if we can, if we can pin this on him, I'm down. I'm down
Ben Silverio 3:26
absolutely well before. I mean, if we kill the right kid, it all goes back. Oh, my God, if only that would be great. Yeah. Well, first episode, drinking, smoking, rules, yeah. And this month, we'll be talking about Terminator Genesis, which Skynet and Rachel have unleashed onto me in such evil fashion. Yes, we love it here in time to party. But yes, and if you don't know anything about term native Genesis, a, you're lucky. B, here is what our good friends at IMDb say when John Connor, leader of the human resistance, sends Sergeant Kyler Reese, back to 1984 to protect Sarah Connor and safeguard the future, an unexpected turn of events creates a fractured timeline.
Ansel Burch 4:27
Kind of, yeah, kind
Ben Silverio 4:28
of, I guess, I mean,
Ansel Burch 4:31
I guess they couldn't put on IMDb. Remember one and two, it's like that, but worse,
Ben Silverio 4:37
but somehow, better, than three and the one that came after it,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 4:41
the one with Christian Bale, that's the one salvation.
Ansel Burch 4:44
Oh yeah. Oh God, that
Rachel Granda-Gluski 4:47
one was also just awful. Really, I just want to see a version where they put all of the different Sean Conners into a room and make them do like Fight Club. That's that's really just what I want. That's the next is just every person who's. Ever Played John Connor just trying to fight in a room? Honestly,
Ansel Burch 5:03
that would, that would be sick, right? I would watch the shit out of that.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 5:08
Really good actors. They're just like, doing bad jobs in these films and then punching each other. It would be awesome. Edward
Ben Silverio 5:15
Furlong needs a job, man like, hit him up. So I guess before we jump into our rules, Rachel, can you talk a little bit about your relationship to this movie
Rachel Granda-Gluski 5:28
and why you picked it so, weirdly enough, I love the Terminator movies, like they're and I love bad action movies very specifically, like, I've always had kind of a soft spot for, like, terrible action films. Like, I don't necessarily need a plot, I just want car chases and explosions and attractive people. Like, I'm good. So I, I think I like these movies partly because they're bad, also just to splash out my own, like, six degrees of separation. I like Arnold Schwarzenegger films because my great aunt was in one of them. She was in Total Recall, so she got to act with Arnold Schwarzenegger. She said he was very nice. And I so I've always like enjoyed Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. And this is I liked this one, because when we go into like, the review of the movie, I'll talk more about it, but I I actually really like Arnold Schwarzenegger in this one, like, because it's so bad, he's my favorite part of it. So
Ansel Burch 6:30
he is a bright spot, to be sure, absolutely.
Ben Silverio 6:33
And
Rachel Granda-Gluski 6:34
also because Ben hates dry Courtney, and I needed to know why. That's the other reason. I mean,
Ansel Burch 6:40
we're eventually going to cover Superman, just because of Ben's feelings about Superman. So
Rachel Granda-Gluski 6:45
you also hate Superman. I
Ben Silverio 6:47
also hate Superman. I also hate
Rachel Granda-Gluski 6:49
Superman, right?
Ben Silverio 6:52
I mean, whenever people compare him to Captain America, I'm just like, it's, it's different guys. They just have the same color scheme. You know, boring superhero, exactly, too perfect. He's too perfect.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 7:06
There's nothing interesting there. Thank
Ben Silverio 7:08
you. See people, someone gets it.
Ansel Burch 7:15
We'll have to bring Rachel along for the Superman hate.
Ben Silverio 7:21
Well, all right, before we start going into our rules, this is a little throwback to our own lore. I guess that's true, because time to party started with a Terminator movie, and now here we are revisiting that timeline once again. Well, a different timeline. I guess, if you don't mind, I'd like to go first, because I have an homage to a rule from our good friend, Aaron. Okay, oh, if you recall from our very first episode, Aaron's first rule was wheels on the ground. Every time you saw wheels on the ground, especially a close up, of them, take a drink. Well, in the same vein, I would like you to take a drink for close ups of feet walking. Ah, yeah, you get, you get quite a bit of that in like, the first half of the movie, because it's just, like, I don't know, it's just look at these cool shoes. I guess
Ansel Burch 8:19
every director's got a thing, I guess you would
Rachel Granda-Gluski 8:21
die if you did wheels on the ground for this one. There's a lot of
Ben Silverio 8:24
wheels on the ground. That's why I didn't go for it. I
Ansel Burch 8:30
mean, there was a lot of wheels in the ground in the first one, though, too. But like we limited it to because there were a lot of shots where it started with wheels and then panned up from there. So that was, that was the sort of origin of the original wheels on the ground. Okay, well, Rachel, would you like to go next? I think
Rachel Granda-Gluski 8:50
that a good drinking role would just be every time they reference Arnold Schwarzenegger's age, we make a lot of references to the fact that he's old. Like, throughout, like, she calls him pops, which is such a grandpa name. Like, they say that I'm old, not absolutely a million times they make a bunch of other references. Like, they make just a lot of little, like, quippy jokes about him being old. And I was like, this is, this is funny. Like, I this would be a good drinking role. Just every time they make a reference to Arnold Schwarzenegger being old. In
Ben Silverio 9:25
fact, they say that old but not obsolete line, like twice in a row, at one point, it's just like you just you just said that. I get it.
Ansel Burch 9:37
Is that going to be on the posters? Is
Rachel Granda-Gluski 9:42
that the tagline of the fall. All right. Ansel, your first rule.
Ansel Burch 9:44
All right. Well, I thought you were gonna snipe this one, so I will also make a reference to our past with a shot rule, out of respect for JK Simmons,
Ben Silverio 9:57
you know, I decided to give my shot rule to someone else. For this, okay, but yes, that did cross my mind. Yeah.
Ansel Burch 10:05
JK, somehow found his ass in this movie and for
Ben Silverio 10:09
a few minutes. Yeah.
Ansel Burch 10:15
I mean, I guess if somebody comes to you with a pitch for a Terminator movie where you only need to show up for a couple days of shooting
Ben Silverio 10:22
free. Why not? Okay, I will
Rachel Granda-Gluski 10:24
say I really appreciated that this film was like, we don't need to make the younger versions of these characters looks like the older versions. We're just not gonna bother. I love to, not even remotely,
Ansel Burch 10:34
yeah,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 10:36
this the bit where the where the young Kyle Reese looks at his dad and goes, he looks like you, dad. I just showed it no family resemblance whatsoever. That kid looks nothing like what I would imagine a young Jay Courtney, the young JK Simmons character, looks nothing like JK Simmons,
Ben Silverio 11:00
all that money went to making Arnold's body double look like Arnold. I mean,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 11:06
yes, yeah, and for the very careful shadowing so you can never see his butt, yeah, there
Ansel Burch 11:12
was a lot of very careful Filmography In this particular film for no butts, no boobs, yeah,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 11:19
carefully placed lighting and camera. Angle,
Ben Silverio 11:22
solid shoulder though, oh yeah. Got that very good shoulder, tone, shoulders.
Ansel Burch 11:34
I mean, also, can we talk about how Linda Hamilton looks nothing like Daenerys, Targaryen, oh,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 11:41
like, yeah, no, they made no effort, no,
Ansel Burch 11:45
no effort. No effort within the film, no effort franchise wide. No,
Ben Silverio 11:51
God. Like, it shouldn't be that hard to find people who look like Edward Furlong, right? Like, I mean, Edward Furlong still out there. It's true, he is. He just needed to know what he's doing up or whatever. I guess to be Christian Bale and Jason Clark. But if
Ansel Burch 12:07
only we knew somebody who could help him work out. I know some have to be attached to the franchise some
Ben Silverio 12:14
kind of prolific body builder. Yeah,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 12:17
definitely has a good old guy fitness routine. Oh, yeah,
Ansel Burch 12:22
yeah. Wouldn't break him.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 12:24
Takes your osteoporosis into account
Ben Silverio 12:26
account. If only someone like that existed. Now that we're on shot rules, my shot rule is actually for Matt Smith. Oh, okay, because he did his best, damn it, like he really tried it, but he's in so little of this movie,
Ansel Burch 12:44
which is a pity, because he brought his good, good, creepy Matt Smith to the to the party.
Ben Silverio 12:49
It's true he did. So in my notes, it actually just says, Take a shot for Matt Smith. Sorry, buddy,
Ansel Burch 12:58
but the script was really cool when you agreed to it.
Ben Silverio 13:03
I read in an interview recently that when I think it was Vanity Fair, who does those videos of like, oh, what movie did you say this line in and whatever? And they'll like, say about, oh, yeah, oh no. It was variety. And then they said a line from, from Terminator generals. And he's just like, what? But then he he went on to, like, say, he went on to say his first day was with Arnold Schwarzenegger, and, like, Ronald was just in like, green spandex, you know, because of all the CGI and stuff. And he was like, What the fuck is going on? Man, it's quite bizarre. I
Ansel Burch 13:46
believe that's exactly quite an experience. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 13:53
you'd think he'd seen weird stuff before on Doctor Who, but,
Ansel Burch 13:57
yeah, oh, sure. But I mean, there's weird, and then there's the cognitive dissonance of Arnold Schwarzenegger is in the room and wearing green jammies. Yeah, I
Rachel Granda-Gluski 14:09
also feel like, I feel like Doctor Who probably also uses a bit more practical effects than this, sure, famously, yeah, yeah. So we probably maybe hadn't had as much experience with like more suits. Rachel, you got? What do you got? Yeah, this isn't a shot rule, because we'd kill you. But I put things not working like they should, or physics being exploited purely for cool effects. There were so many instances where I was like, one, a car does not explode if you shoot it. Two, that tanker truck does not explode if you shoot it. Three, how many times did that bus flip around? So many the MRI that was dragging him back into the machine, yet somehow not. Not ripping everything out of the room from the broken glass with it like the computer was just sitting there three feet away, unaffected. And then my personal favorite was the acid they used to melt the t1 1000. What kind of container is it in that would allow it to melt metal that quickly, without melting the fucking containers.
Ansel Burch 15:25
There is a plastic that they use for storing acids in. Is
Rachel Granda-Gluski 15:30
that okay? Yeah, yeah, maybe give that one. It's still just it all felt the edge of plausible, yeah? Like the edge of plausible. But, like, there were so many things where I was like, that is just physically impossible. That's not how physics works. But cool, yeah, so
Ansel Burch 15:48
I will say the problem I had with the acid is that there is no acid that liquefies metal on contact. It's
Rachel Granda-Gluski 15:55
right. There was no acid that works that quickly. No, not like that. No. Well,
Ben Silverio 15:59
you know, it's cool as from the mind that brought you on obtaining, you know, was he involved with this one? James Cameron, yeah, yeah, he worked on the script. He did okay, I
Ansel Burch 16:13
didn't see him in the credits, but I wasn't looking very carefully for him. But
Rachel Granda-Gluski 16:17
yeah, I thought that would be a fun rule. Is just every time they just do something purely for it to be cool.
Ansel Burch 16:25
I'm here for a drink for the rule of cool. I actually have a duology of rules to go with that that I think will will help you. One is drink every time we establish a new random power for terminators. Okay? They can do that now, great, and then drink whenever a terminator conveniently forgets the power we just established so that our protagonists can still beat them, which happened with alarming frequency. It sure did.
Ben Silverio 17:00
That definitely did happen, you know,
Ansel Burch 17:04
you know, would have been handy just now. The thing we just learned you could do, yeah,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 17:11
I do have a good shot rule, though, oh, um, drink whenever Arnold Schwarzenegger has to re establish his heavier accent from the earlier films, because he quotes, he says, I'll be back. And the way he has to heavily increase his own accent that he has mellowed out so much at this point, probably from being governor. But like, the way he is, like, real. He still has his accent, but it's softer now, oh yeah. The way he had to, like, heavily, like, all be Bach, like, I was like, Oh no, Arnold Schwarzenegger is doing a bad impression of Arnold Schwarzenegger. He had
Ansel Burch 17:54
to do his own SNL impression. Yeah.
Ben Silverio 17:57
That kind of goes along with my next rule, which is drink when classic moments from the original movies are remixed. Okay, so that's like, that's like a more super fan rule, like, if you really remember all these moments from before, you know what? We'll call it an intermediate rule. You know, I like that. I like that because, like, Come with me if you want to live, you know, that moment, and there's a there's a bunch of them, yeah,
Ansel Burch 18:25
there were a lot of the call back to trying to smile, yeah, thumbs up, yeah. But you know, I did spend most of this movie thinking, have I seen this movie?
Ben Silverio 18:39
Yeah? Kind of Yeah.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 18:42
I have another very just classic, like, drinking game style. Oh, great, because I like some rules, especially as you get drunker, like, you want some rules that aren't necessarily subjective. You want, just rules that you can rely on. Um, they say the names Reese and John and unnecessary, like, they refer to each other, like, by John and by Reese, like while they are talking and they are the only two people in the room. You
Ansel Burch 19:09
know what I think it is. We spent so much time with John being the protagonist of these movies that now that we've switched to it being Reese, I think everybody's just could. They were worried we'd be confused. We're like, Wait, hold on, good day. Is which one?
Rachel Granda-Gluski 19:25
Yeah. But like, like, like, Reese calls John John so many times when he is, like, staring straight at him, there is no confusion about who he is talking to. You don't need to say his name, I wouldn't be like, if we're the only two people in the room. I wouldn't be like, Ansel,
Ansel Burch 19:48
like, unless you were trying for dramatic effect. Every
Rachel Granda-Gluski 19:50
time they say Reese or John, you could take a drink and you would be in trouble.
Ansel Burch 19:56
Oh, yeah, you'd die.
Ben Silverio 19:58
That. I have a similar rule me too, as do you go for it? Well, because in our Terminator episode, I had a rule similar to the High School Musical drinking game, rule, where you drink every time they say Bolton and so similarly, drink every time they say Reese. But this time around, any of their full names, because they use their full names a lot, they'll just be like, John Connor, Kyle Reese, you know, even to each other. Sarah Connor, you know, Sarah Connor, and I'm just like, Y'all know each other like you're familiar, like you don't have to constantly use both names. So I was gonna say
Rachel Granda-Gluski 20:44
that Kyle John and Sarah are fairly common names, but, yeah, we know who you're talking about.
Ansel Burch 20:54
If only they looked anything like Michael bean or Linda Hamilton, maybe they wouldn't have needed to specify they really
Rachel Granda-Gluski 21:02
want. Wanted to make sure you knew,
Ansel Burch 21:04
yeah, like, okay, just to be clear, that's who this is. Did you everybody get it? The plot doesn't work if you don't know that, that's Sarah or a ponytail so you would wreck my drink every time they say rule is Skynet, every time they say Skynet, which happens less than you would think, but still enough. Yeah,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 21:32
but there's a there. It's a good rule, because they say Skynet a lot at the beginning, and then they transfer to Genesis in the middle, and then we get a lot of Genesis is Skynet. Yeah. So you'd be like, Oh, we're done with this rule. No, we're not, nope.
Ben Silverio 21:46
Kaiser, so say,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 21:52
the only worry is, by that point you're so drunk that you don't remember what the rules are.
Ansel Burch 21:56
You are not gonna Yeah, yeah, which could be a good thing for you. You're, you're switching to water,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 22:01
you're, this is like when we did Fantasia, and I had to make them stop drinking during the dinosaur scene because they were already so drunk I needed them
Ben Silverio 22:09
to take a break. What was the rule? Oh, okay, you
Rachel Granda-Gluski 22:13
want to play Fantasia and just get fucking trashed. Drink every time you see a butt. I'm not kidding. There are so many butts, so many butts. There are Centaur butts, there are little, cute donkey butts, there are cherub butts, there are demon butts, there are dinosaur butts, there are HIPAA butts, there are ostrich butts. They're just so many butts that movie that by the time we got done with the hippos dancing so many butts, and then the centaurs so many butts. They got to dinosaurs. And they were like, do we have to drink when we see a dinosaur butts? I was like, please don't. Please don't do that. Please. No, just, let's take a break, guys, because you're all in bad shape.
Ben Silverio 23:00
Where's the super cut on YouTube of just all the butts, but Tasia help the butts.
Ansel Burch 23:06
Fan cake show no, there's something there. We'll get there. Any more for cleanup, anybody? We need to bat clean up on a rule.
Ben Silverio 23:18
Thank God.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 23:21
Techno time babble, whenever they're just like saying random science words really make no sense. Would be good ones too, because they do do a lot of that, and they're strung together. So those could kind of be like waterfall moments where you're just like continuously drinking as they do the stream of techno babble.
Ben Silverio 23:39
Just drink steadily while they're at cyber dime, yeah, yeah,
Rachel Granda-Gluski 23:45
there were definitely a bunch of moments of just like techno babble.
Ansel Burch 23:51
My last one for the cleanup round is have a few shots lined up for every new time time machine we see.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 23:59
I would also like to suggest take a shot for the fact that the big beginning sequence apparently happened in 2029 what? Yeah, this movie is not that old.
Ansel Burch 24:12
They had to, they had to go and move the timeline around, but they couldn't move it too much. I was
Rachel Granda-Gluski 24:18
like, Is this where we're supposed to be four years. Is it better than where we are now? It
Ben Silverio 24:24
could be
Ansel Burch 24:26
plausible. There are a couple companies that they might have been making reference to for, uh, Genesis, yeah, moral evil corporation that owns all my data. Hmm, that was
Rachel Granda-Gluski 24:40
2017 though, yeah, yep,
Ben Silverio 24:44
but more on that in our next episode, which, which? We hope you'll tune into party people, because that does it for our drinking, smoking rules. We didn't have any smoking rules. I just realized
Rachel Granda-Gluski 24:56
I don't smoke. So I never think I always.
Ansel Burch 24:59
Consistently forget you could, you could do the Skynet rule as a smoking rule. That would make sense.
Ben Silverio 25:06
Ansel, you probably take a hit for Matt Smith, because he certainly took a hit by appearing in this movie.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 25:15
Yeah, for the
Ansel Burch 25:16
team.
Ben Silverio 25:17
Yeah. All right party people that does it for our drinking and smoking rules, even though we kind of sort of don't have smoking rules this time around. But you know, feel free to alter the rules. Yeah, as you like.
Ansel Burch 25:31
You do what you want. We're not your dad.
Ben Silverio 25:34
It's true. But Tune in next week when we get into our review of Terminator Genesis with the incredible Rachel returning, maybe, or does she? Ah, you'll have to tune in to find out. Until then, you can find us on the internet. I'm at B cell, Vario 20 on Instagram and letterboxed and blue sky and all that good stuff.
Rachel Granda-Gluski 26:05
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Ansel Burch 26:18
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Ben Silverio 26:59
If you're still on a social media platform that uses hashtags, you can use the hashtag time to party. That's time the number two party to join in on the conversation,
Ansel Burch 27:10
as well as time the number two party all spelled out thanks to war
Ben Silverio 27:17
party. People straight line. You just go and don't look. Just
Ansel Burch 27:24
get great advice for a child,
Ben Silverio 27:25
go and don't look. Back to our next episode, and until then, friends be excellent to each other and party on
dudes you might be just really hardy,
Ansel Burch 27:40
yeah. Or else that's a threat.
Unknown Speaker 27:47
If you know what's good for you, you.
